Re the CL Q & A, I've been reading it every day and becoming more and more disillusioned. My questions weren't answered either. In a nutshell... Poser 5 is going to continue to be patched, but never entirely fixed. Poser 6 will (maybe) be what Poser 5 was touted as being - ie. a complete rewrite. Poser Artist = Poser 4 - Since Poser 4 is outdated (in it's name anyway) and Poser 5 is buggy and complex to use, the simple answer is rename Poser 4 and sell it all over again to a new group of users. No work. More cash. Fair enough, I suppose. DAZ|Studio - So far, DraX is the only one who has stated the obvious in this thread. D|S is going out on FREE public beta. This fact alone should tell us that DAZ learned a lot from the Poser 5 debacle and are using the gray stuff God planted between their ears. I don't know whether D|S will be the best thing since sliced bread, but look at the facts. 1. In a few years, DAZ has become one of the biggest providers of Poser content, by providing high quality products at excellent prices. 2. DAZ has a reputation for customer service second to NONE. 3. Despite the howls, moans and pleas from the communities, DAZ has not allowed themselves to be panicked or pressured into releasing a half-assed, unfinished piece of junk. When it's finished and working, we'll see it. 4. The damned thing will be FREE and we'll all be able to use it, comment on it and make suggestions, with a high probability that they'll actually listen to us (miraculous though that may seem). 5. Nobody's being asked to shell out 100s of bucks for D|S. You get the base, then buy whatever modules you need to float your boat. I sincerely hope CL survive. After all, no matter what, we all owe them a huge debt of gratitude for giving us this maddening, frustrating, but still amazing (and cheap) program. Judging by the amount of time a lot of us spend in here, Poser is a major entertainment factor in our lives, if not more. So, maybe we have a lot to gripe about, but let's at least wish CL all the best. mac