"When C-Labs got Poser, they dusted off the ProPack that was already mostly done, and made it a product." CL wrote ProPack from the ground up. It hadn't even been started yet. They fixed a bunch of bugs in P4 and rebranded it and then started on the ProPack. Actually Avatar Lab is still going as well as the online community that is using it as far as I know. Just a few fact straighteners