pakled, yeah it's dead. I'm a networking guy, not much experience as an actual technician but I'm pretty sure it's dead, LOL. Yeah, I'm gonna need a new motherboard and with that new memory sticks. I think my hard drive is still OK. =) LOL bikermouse! TheBryster: don't do it LOL! well, if you do, just don't let her know. =) Thanks guys, I'm taking this opportunity to go back to my pencil and paper.