What sadly hilarious is that IF Poser Artist was that Poser 4.5--plugins, Python, and Library exstensions-- they wouldn't have to look for New buyers--a lot of people Right Here would buy it. Add a Carrara plug in and I'll buy it and I have Poser 5, which even works much of the time as long a I dont ask it to do too much. Posre Artist= Poser 4.5. Think of it, Meditate on it, it couldhappen. Maybe. Emily