oh wow Robert, this is one of those occasions where you 'read a thread' decide whether you should myob and keep your opinions to yourself, or post something. Then sit back and have a cup of coffee and decide not to post. I would have owed you an apology. Not that I was going to say anything nasty, but another voice to the thread was really not necessary. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned for us all here,,, learn to read... hmm coffee was good though,, pumpkin spice...