Who ever said animators aren't artists? . Poser Artists is Poser 4 reboxed, cheaper (legally) to APPEAL to a new market of people with less cash (or more sence) than the rest of us. At $99 US (so probably 249.99 UK) it should be affordable enough for a bunch more people to buy. Since it seems they're not going to cripple it by removing functionality, that COULD be a "good thing" - if DAZ|Studio doesn't get there first, cheaper. I'm woefully underwhelmed by the obvious attitude that past promises mean nothing. I realise it's probably because they (as a company) simply cannot afford to deliver what they (as a company) have promised, but saying "We've got cash, we're AOK and not going under" in the same thread as (HEAVILY paraphrased) "We're only doing minimal damage limitation - you want even a bit more than that you'll need to pay for an upgrade". I for one am sick "up to here" with "Oh, that bug is fixed in the next version - you have to upgrade for $caching$ for that to work properly". Is it me, or do people even now seem to hope for a complete rewrite? Marc SEEMS to say, repeatedly, that P6 is basically intended to be a fixed version of P5. No (or few, if any) new features and no new content, just fixes to the code to improve speed and memory usage. Personally P5 actually works FAIRLY well for me now, with SR3 - and has never been as bad here as the worst tales people have to tell... but I've already been sold P5 once. To be sold P5 again, as P6 "but this time it really works" the upgrade price is gonna hafta be impressive. To me, not CL. My favourite scenario? Larry (perhaps) gets together with Dan Farr and they bitch-slap each other around until they have a mutual cameraderie thing going (like in the movies). Then they buy out the CL and Poser names and dump the suits, rename DAZ|Studio to Poser 6 and include the Poser 5 feature set (hair, cloth, the new materials editor! Libraries, yadda yadda). Because although the DAZ page says that the program supports .PZ3 files and all subsets, I have a horrible feeling they mean Poser 4 .PZ3 files... I'm not pinning any hopes on DAZ|Studio and certainly not on Poser 6, especially after this little Q&A session. But I rather suspect that, once it's actually ready for public consumption, DAZ|Studio is at least going to make a nice addition to my toolkit.