I work with 3d artists a lot and its funny cause they will snub their nose at poser yet I have caught them several time "sneaking" animations and meshes from poser to do their work. Even the animation master people snub poser yet the poser community is way larger. What is a mystery to me is if Max, Maya etc are so great for this (which they are on a commerical end) then why so few production examples? The net has tons and tons of poser movies, comic books etc yet so few max or maya stories. I know of no one who has a continuously running 3d art serial on a pay site that is not poser. When I did hosue construction there were also people like this. If you didn't cut your own wood by hand, mill it your self, ever used a kit or used prefab items you weren't a REAL carpenter. Of course the REAL carpenters took nearly a decade to get a house done and those still weren't really ever done. Well there are snobs everywhere, usually people who try to maintain a club to justify their own existance. On the high end those tools work way better than Poser. I think one of the other problems with poser is that some people keep using the same stock figures over and over and somehow those people end up getting the most exposure. I cringe everytime I see posette with that same yellow wig in some public ad like an amatuer car commercial etc. No wonder poser gets a bad wrap.