im bored as hell and i surf all day and in almost all 3d sites all the pictures are done with poser and they look so reall!! shiny Plastic Mannequin!??!!?! are they blind or what?! im not an expert and im amazed what poser can do!!! and if poser "sucks" so much how come that almost every 3d artist have it? and there so many versions and they just keep coming? -vamps