Wings can model every point at a vertice (vertix? vertux? you decide..;). I've been able to do most anything I want in Wings, but Amapi's free (I had problems with 4.15, but 5.15 may be easier..I dunno). Plus points on modelling- aside from using someone else's idea, you don't have to worry about 'commercial' usage, you can get a lot more control over your model, you can use it over and over again..you can reduce the vertex counts,the size of the model, and when you're done, you can give it away or even sell it. I haven't seen anything in the model that couldn't be done in Wings, heck, give it a shot. Plus, you don't have to keep dealing with the 'bobbin' toolbar' in Bryce..did I say that?..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)