I must be timing it wrong. I did not count the time for the setup, like loading texture maps, etc. I just timed it from when the image render box opened to when it closed. AMD 2.1g 1g ram (ddr) win2k sp4 193 seconds. If I include the time it takes to set it up, ie, the small render box that opens when you first hit ctr R, then its 266 seconds.