Great suggestions and actually what I'm starting to think. I'll tell you why. I did the box suggestion - see above - and both V3s were ruined - the one with and the one without the airplane. Yes, she renders fine in poser, but to put the plane in the box I needed a very big box, and I put the V3 without plane in same sized box. Brought them both into vue intending to superimpose good vickie on bad vickie and delete bad vickie, but I think they both went bad. So I think it is a problem with the import. I'm just trying it one more time with a different hair, then if that doesn't work, I'm off to get that beta version of vue. Okay, I'll back up first. I've got another question. If it's such a big model, why does it come into vue so small when I import, yet when I import a vickie without the plane the model looks bigger in vue. the plane looks the size of a splinter. Yes, the IW models are great. Expensive +++ but they have some sales sometimes and deals if you buy more than one, and a surprise that i'm not allowed to tell people, when you buy a model for the first time from them. Also they're really nice people to deal with, but they haven't got vue and can't help me with this problem. Love esther

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