As an addendum to my last post: I don't think Bryce is a memory hog more than any other 3d program, but I do think that the export process is half-baked. The e/d export was never officially documented in the manual or, if I recall correclty, neither in the "readme" and was passed around by word of mouth as an "Easter egg". It was probably Kai's last laugh on Metacreations, all those black frozen screens 7/24:) manowar