Michael 3 is one of the best models I've worked with so far, aside from Vickie 3. I feel lucky that Daz has put so much work into these models as I could never do such a great job and if you look at some of the models that other folks have been doing that are in the same price range, you will not see better. Most look more like cartoons than people. Mind you, I am not slamming them, they have their place, but I couldn't use them in most of the work I do. Mike has a ton of morphs, I have not posted any because although he is a wip I don't feel comfortable posting a ton of pics here. You will either like him or not. You have the choice to buy him or not. I remember how many folks complained about Vickie 3, yet still bought her, and now some folks rarely use Vickie 2 anymore. I know it's hard to wait, and not see what he's really like. He still has a few tweaks left but all for the better. As for the joints, you will never get them all to look totally human...but Das has come very close, and continues to work on them. Take a look at some of the models available and some of the prices and I think you will see that Daz has made every effort to please folks here by offering quality and decent prices. Marque