You generous people are good. I get tired sometimes of the "have" attitude around here. Poser is a good preoccupation sometimes for the disabled physically, clinically depressed, unemployed, unemployable, or people living and earning in countries with exchange rates that make thier currency valueless in U.S. dollars ...and have no access to electronic funds anyway. It is actually surprizing the number of Poser people who have revealed to me after some lengthy correspondance they were disabled and on fixed income. The "high rollers" have kind have left the whole DIY scene behind... it was the big grab for for cash and shift to comercialization that soured the realy generous (REALY generous) Poser resources like Traveler. To be honest, the only reason my stuff ended up commercial is I could not find a free webhost that wouldn't TOS me... I don't even have a credit card or checking account. But maybe I shouldn't vent like this... I'm sorry. I just miss the old days of people Hacking P3 and P4 and putting it all up on the web for folks to play with... What are the good free Poser sites now? I went without ISP for about 18 mos. when my FreeDialUp wanted that $8USD/mounth and now I don't know what's going on... tried a new Poser site last week and the registration was a scam... didn't give me access but I had to abandon my mail.com account because of all the SPAM comming in now (hard to deleat from web mail accounts). Oy! Kvetching too much again. So sorry!