Okay, who is this 'Drac' and what did you do with the real Drac? J/K, I have to say that is the most eloquent post I've ever seen here and that Drac has made some valid points. Nothing gets accomplished with out of control ranting, alot gets done when we discuss things rationaly and offer up creative solutions... However, being humans we all have bad days, and need to vent, maybe because of our situtations we can't do it anywhere except in the forum, maybe we just need to know we're not the only ones that feel the way we do, but here, we can rely on the support of our peers, other artists. As to the marketplace, well, everyone has the right to make a living, whether it's for extra spending cash or to pay the rent, and if making Vickie panty's is your thing, hey.......;]

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