The Victoria 3 posts got moved, the Michael 3 posts got moved, the Milcat posts got moved, the .... do I need to go on? Yes as soon as the forum moderator comes online the forum is checked. Funny how that works grin DAZ posts its preview threads in the showcase and has caused no ruckus about it. Why other people can't follow their lead is beyond me ... Lyrra the Evil Galactic Overlord