Nullster..... You will not find out otherwise cause this is probably the friendleist forum you will ever run across. Lots of good people here. Welcome to this forum.8) If you are working with Autocad your learning curve with Bryce will be nothing to worry about. You will really enjoy it once you get started with it. There is always some new or improved way to acheive an effect that someone stumbles accross. Always something new making it's appearance. It will be a fun adventure for you I would bet. 8)

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