adjusts the warez radar Since I've actually read all the manuals for Poser from 1-5 I can say conclusively that they are less than useful for new users. There are some downright errors and many unclear directions. There is an unfortunate tendancy in most software programs for 'release' manuals to be unclear technobabble. Just once I'd like to see a major software company write a manual in plain english, with separate sections for the technically inclined. And lets not forget that there are many many non-English speaking Poser users and that just makes things that much more fun. Add to that the community's tendancy for renaming, nicknaming and cobbling together weird model combinations? no wonder people get confused ... I get confused and I've been around here forever. After all ... MAT files aren't covered in any of the manuals anywhere ... neither is EasyPose, geometry switching or crosstalk .. all things that we take for granted. As for sorting out the warez users from the legit but clueless? well thats the moderators job and trust me .. we have lots of practise. Lyrra "Digital Beat Cop" Madril