My own thoughts kind of ramble along these lines - Poser 4 - old technology and old code, a 'fat' program, no resource management; Poser 5 - new technology and code added on top of old technology and code, nice 'ideas' for materials and hair, etc, but poorly executed in the extreme; Daz Studio - written from the ground up, resource management, etc. Is it gonna be the best thing since sliced bread? Dunno, but it's worth a peek. One of the major reason that MS Word even got their toe in the door of the Word Processing world (for better or for worse) is that the first Windows version of WordPerfect (who had over 85% of the market share at that time) was the most awful port of a DOS program to Windows ever seen and did not integrate well with Windows-based apps. Vis-a-Vis Poser and Daz Studio, it could be "deja vu all over again". Same door, different toe :) -Nancy.