I used to have an ASUS but recently updated to a ABIT NF7 and that is even better IMHO. Thats the one I was telling you about Incarnadine which has a siren that goes off and shuts the system down if anything unauthorised tries to write to the bios, pretty neat I think. BTW, the ABIT NF7 cost me 72 or $157 Canadian, just to give you an idea of price. Catlin