LOL - I'm not nitpicking, honest. I was just pointing out actual examples of why folks are getting sick and tired of Microsoft's operating system. If it works for you, then good on ye - honestly. I'm sure there are thousands of folks who will never see a virus on Windows no matter what they do to court one, whether they take precautions or no. OTOH, I'm sure there are thousands who have viruses (or worse) and don't even know it, or can't be bothered to even check. Not an accusation of any sort, mind - just a statement of fact. Besides, you don't see any posts in the Macintosh forum about how joe user just got bit by the umpteenth bug and is looking for ancient_thing.cr2 because the bug blew his hard drive up. If you want to carry your routine just to maintain a safe environment, go for it... some folks want better, and I've no problem with helping 'em do so, no matter what OS they eventually decide on. OTOH, very few folks here even want to bone up on the latest to come down the pike at bugtraq or Windows Update... not everyone is a sysadmin or into the geek thing. After all, time spent patching up a box is time spent not rendering, or time spent not playing Quake, or (insert one of a zillion fun things on- or off-line that most folks would rather be doing than hoping the latest patch doesn't bang-up their apps.) I have to maintain a pile of Windows boxes at work (where an OC-12 line tends to make them rather tempting targets, not to mention the ham-fisted care given them by students just starting to learn the things.) In my wee case, it would be nice to come home for once knowing that I don't have to do it all over again here (and that's in spite of a proxy, firewall, and etc. at work.) /P