Hey, welcome to the Poser forum. Glad to see Brycers wander in. Yeah, we're a bit more edgy than over there but as PapaBlueMarlin says, there are other reasons. I'd encourage you to get familiar with the manual. It will get you familiar with the program. When you get stumped, feel free to ask. One of the best ways to phrase a question is to just say page xx didn't light your rocket and we'll all go there and look it up and give our two cents worth. As Scarab pointed out, we do get our jollies by trashing the daylights out of the warez folks. Its like a national treasure to get in a warez thread with some goofy comment before the thread gets locked. We have a monthly challenge that is patterned after AgentSmith's fine work over there. September is about to start so you're just in time. Borrowed from work and they don't know it yet? OUCH! Mama Judy says to go back to work and fess up though. I won't go there cuz I'll end up in the Jar Jar corner again.