I revised this recently, and I am not sure this will answer your question. If it doesn't you should probably ask Mark on the Apophysis mailing list. ******** Here is how to get an Apophysis flame from Apophysis to UltraFractal 3. In Apophysis 2, on the Display tab of the Options Menu, be sure the "UltraFractal compatible" box is ticked. Generate the flame in Apophysis and edit it until you are happy with it. On the main window for Apophysis, you will see on the 3rd line icons for a variety of things. The first is an open folder, the second a floppy disk ( open file, save file) and so on. One of the items is 2 sheets of paper, one on top of the other (copy) To pick up the file you just created, simply click on that button. Open UF3. You should have a fractal window open. (usually this will be the default fractal, but any one will be fine.) Right click in the fractal window and choose paste from the popup menu. That's all...your flame will appear! It may take a moment or two, (or way longer, lol) so be patient. If it seems to take a long time, it may be that there are many iterations to calculate, and that is just the way that flames are. Have fun, try to eat and sleep occasionally! ************* Tres

Fractals will always amaze me!