Here's a couple of samples of what i mean..first P5 http://www.poserworld.com/steve/sstudiorender.jpg next a comparison, on the left done as i described on the right the old way http://www.poserworld.com/StevePublicPrvws/sitdress1.jpg another sample http://www.poserworld.com/StevePublicPrvws/sitdress2.jpg....Steve