Dan, Maybe you want to go lie on the ice with Polar Bares, but I'm going to have to draw the line... somewhere around 40 degrees. (Have you seen pictures of them hugging the ice on "hot" days?) Actually, I could see a Polar Poser Party as people trek up to Santa's hoping to get on his good list well before Christmas. "We are Santa's Elves" and all that. :) It would certainly be international! What day would be good? Part of why I'm throwing this out is so that folks can say if particular weekends are bad, or better than others... in hopes of being as convenient as possible. Also, how are you fixed for Rosemary? I've had to prune it back again, but it needs more trimming (it doesn't know that it is a desirable plant, and therefore grows like a weed) and if you make foccacia or minestrone, you might want some fresh herbs. The bay tree probably needs whacking back, too. :sigh: Carolly