Kate, Last night I checked my carefully archived IMs... and realized that they get cut off after 6 months. huh? If I didn't want to keep it, I wouldn't archive it! I barely rescued Dan Farr's phone number from 3-3-03, and have to worry now about what else I've lost. Anyway, I can't find your number in either email or IM archive, so can you IM me with it? The punster in me is thinking about a numbers game. Tracy brought punch last year... and that is from the Sanskrit word for "5" (if it has 5 ingrediants, it is a punch, anything else and it isn't). Shish-kebabs are from the Arabic word for "6", any other number of items on the skewers and it is only a kebab. Unfortunately Primate is from the Latin for "1" (actually first), but I don't think we can tuck any of those on the grill without dire consequences. (If you saw the wonderful Italian "Canterbury Tales" about 25 years ago, you may remember the scene with hot crossed buns.) OK, OK, I'll take my fevered headache and go lie down quietly. All kidding aside, grilling something would be splendid! Carolly