Oh shit is all i have to say... well, actually not all. Thats disappointing, because Ive never broken 36 minutes... If you check my gallery and see Abstract 1, that took 36... What I'm trying to render is exactly that image, but with two more lights, these w/o gels, and some transparency in the metal, should it really take 2.5 days?? My machine is running fine, I test renedered another file, one that takes no time, and it was running at normal speed, then back to this other one and the first pass took longer than i could sit around and watch. But since 30 min ago when it said 3days1hr. so forth, now it says 2days 6 hrs. Plus I'm on pass5 I think.. just this one, another regular, then AA (if Im correct) so maybe my computer is exaggerating like you said. It's ALWAYS been off by a lot, never have trusted it. Its only 10:45 now, Ill leave it overnight... I bet the AA pass alone is gonna be what makes it take a day.. I'd tell you the resolution if I could, but not in midrender here. It's set standard with my size at 720X640(720 for sure, but whats the height that matches that, I think its 640) Anyway, thanks guys, I post and ten minutes later youve replied! Cory BS