"Gee, I don't know, for one thing, I don't see any magic in the fact that an AMD chip is faster than an Intel chip of the same clock speed, because the Intel numbers go higher, after all, it is the end result that counts." Plain english: AthlonXP 2.08Ghz is as fast or faster than a P4 2.8Ghz in Poser and just about everything else (except Quake3). If that AthlonXP was running at 2.8Ghz it would be miles ahead. If you wanna compare "clock to clock", look at how slow a P4 2Ghz is compared to the same Athlon. You are right, it is the end result that counts.. If you want to spend $100 more to get the same performance, or $200 more for a 3Ghz to get a little better performance, thats your choice. My comment wasnt intended to be turned into a "who's CPU is better" one. The speed/performance chart is simply incorrect. It shows AMD processors as 2.5, 2.8Ghz etc.. They arent running at that speed. Thats all.