I agree with what you said soulhuntre but you are missing some of the facts. While people being "unhappy" doesn't constitute a complete failure of CL to deliver what is a substantial upgrade that is worth the price to many artists, it does to many others. You make it sound like people are unhappy simply because it's their nature. That isn't true for many (if not most) of us, we have legitimate problems with the core of 5. And it really doesn't matter if P5 sings and dances, it still isn't what was promised. It's just Poser4/ProPack with third-party plugins stapled onto the interface. I was very upbeat and positive about 5 when I first got it. As it became clear CL was just ignoring the fact that P4 problems weren't fixed, I became angry. I too stick up for Microsoft at times but they don't ignore serious problems or complaints about their software--they actually try to fix them. We were told Poser 4 problems would be fixed in 5; they weren't. Now we're being told Poser 5 problems would be fixed in 6. How do you expect those for whom 5 doesn't work well--or at all--to feel about that?