OK how about "built from the ground up"? Clearly Poser 5 is NOT a new build. It IS Poser 4 (pro) with some bells and whistles. Now don't get me wrong, my Poser 5 works as stable as my Pro Pack, only slower. It is pure conservatite lazyness that prevents me from skipping PPP G The point is that Poser 5 was touted as new written software, and it wasn't. You can't blame people for not believing what other things they might hear then. PS: And I do NOT consider myself as member of either the MS or the CL bashing groups. I LOVE both programs, I even speak nicely of WinME (best OS I ever had prior to XP) but I won't shut my mouth either just to please :o)

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You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
  Using Poser since 2002. Currently at Version 11.1 - Win 10.