As was said above it's all the nude images that makes Poser popular. If even a Brycer hits the nudity tab then the viewing goes through the roof. I've got Poser but I'm not terribly keen on it, if there were something else like say DAZ Studio, I think I'd have to try it. But Bryce is my main toy, I even bring my Poser figures into Bryce to render, it doesn't happen often, btw, but when it's nesessary that's how I use it. 8) Catlin PS. do you think DAZ would make a module to use DAZ Studio in Bryce?, that would be pretty neat, I think I'll ask them. 8)