Bitching is a more specific way of providing feedback to the vendor ... the other way is what the market says. Either INJ/V3/M3 sell or they don't. If they do, the next question is what the market says how viable the older versions should be supported. So far, I haven't seen fit to invest a lot in the "3's" until I can get the same flexibility I have now with the "2's" in terms of clothes and range of characters. Plus a more powerful computer to handle the more complex meshes. I still use P4 characters as background and supporting characters for which the higher resolutions aren't needed/

Gordon