Ahhhh, I can just envision now, kazi...sighhhh... No grampy! Not that yucky 'Make Way For Ducklings' again!! Tell us the one 'bout that time when you had that VUE file that was like a megazillion bytes big on that...uhhhmmmm... it was a windex system, wasn't it...and evvvvverrrrry thing just went crash! ==steve