Plenty of anti-poser stuff there if you look long enough. They bend over backwards to cut us poor untalented "hobbyists" a break but. . . "I'm no one to point a finger at anyone.... Ive used Poser myself when I first was attracted to 3D. It was cheap and fun but I knew it was not real 3D art because it was someone elses." And another point of view "and honestly if you used poser for a pic would you say so?.. no because people would flame you." He was quite wrong to break the rules of contests-- no dispute. But the rest of it sounds like someone who liked using the tools we use and couldn't say so because our tools are scum in that community. Worse, our tools are benighted mesh theft. I thought I was doing 3D art. I don't want to model, I don't want to listen the people over there anymore either. They don't all hate us, but they "know" we ain't doing art. Just "crappy poser renders." Emily the crappy Poser renderer and proud of it!