Most of the flaming in that thread is due to "Strike" lying about the origin of the mesh he used, but you see a lot of Poser bashing and weird opinions about "true art" as well. It always strike me that people in the hard-core modelling forums always confuse "art" with "technical craftmanship". "Art" is the result. Regardless of what kind of craftmanship used used to make the art. Yoy can be a great modeller and make lousy art. You can also be a lousy modeller with a great eye for making fantastic art. I sometimes wonder if these "3D modelling purists" considers Leonardo da Vinci a lousy artists just because he didn't tailor Mona Lisas dress himself. "What?? He let a tailor do the dress?? He used another persons work in his painting?? He's not an artist!!!"