I can confirm what cooler experienced. I put out a call Friday nite/ early Saturday morn entitled "Waiting for the Download" and got in the area of twenty people hopping into chat (more than I've ever seen let me tell you) then suddenly - pop - no one was there.there was no way to communicate with anyone and if you exited and came back in the messeging field was gone. On the bright side since there were so many members around awaiting the feebies, the response was fantastic and Chat actually had a "real-world" reason for existing. Till, of course it went Tango-Umbrella. Maybe next time you do something like this you should put a live moderator up there. T'was cool for those few minutes. My own thanks to the entire Renderosity/Zygote gang for making this thing happen. I'm a bit surprised there was no map.jpg since that seems to be S.O.P with Zygote freebies. But don't get me wrong, I'm not one to look a gift horse...er...camel in the mouth. (Ewwwww! nasty image.) Hmmmm Kelly on a Camel. Naw she'd never let me get a way with it. Now Nicky on the other hand... jje