I think what I am saying is this, Mike 3 has a few problem Im sure DAZ will fix. And I Belive at the moment that Mike 3.0 is not going to be able to be as massive as mike unless some new morphs are created, I tried several times to make him really massive like Mike 2.0 but he morphs to the wrong shape if you over do it. He seems to want to stay a certain size, Yes he can get buff but not massive like mike 2.0. Was this character created to be on the smaller scale then Mike? If so and if that was his design then what im trying to do to is not what he was degined for?