Well, trust me, take anything you may read about Vue in ANY other forum with a grain of salt. I've been biting my tounge over the "bryce is dead" chant that I've ran across in many forums, lol. Yeah, tear that material apart and make more/different, do whatever you want with it! The Bryce DTE was a tough one to get through, but since that, I seem to quickly understand other programs procedural editor's, even the high end apps, which I think are just now truly catching up to what Bryce and Vue have been able to do with procedurals. (imo) Absolutely room for both Vue and Bryce. The gui's are SO different, it lends itself to being people's choice of either vanilla or chocolate, it's just which taste do you like better? As far as Corel goes, perhaps the best thing that could happen is the sale of Bryce to Ken Musgrave (one of the creators of Bryce and creator of MojoWorld). It's assimilation into MojoWorld could be the best of both worlds coming together. Who knows? Enjoy the .mat, I will get around to making some more (at some point, lol) AgentSmith

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