yep, that third option shows everything running. Whether you want it there or not..it's a complete list so to speak grins For an example, I installed a 30 day demo of a virus software, after it expired, I "uninstalled the program" However, to this day I still find parts of it still running in that box, and when I close them, the only thing it affects is how much FASTER my pc goes..LOL for a pretty complete list of everything installed on your pc, go into control panel, then add/remove programs. (you'd be amazed what ya find in THAT box hahaha) Although I recommend using the uninstaller with a program, for any that comes with one, then go into add remove programs for the ones that don't. Some times Add/remove leaves empty folders behind, while uninstalling doesn't usually. Just in case anyone's interrested, here's another lil thing to speed up the desktop a lil. Windows Display Tweak 1. Click on the Start menu and select Run. Type in "regedit" (without the quotes) in the Open field. 2. Expand the HKEY_CURRENT_USER key. 3. Expand the Control Panel key. 4. Expand the Desktop key. Then do one of the two steps below. * Select MenuShowDelay. Right-click, select Properties, and enter a value to 0 * If you don't have MenuShowDelay, you can create it. Here's how: 1. Right-click on Desktop key. 2. Select New > String Value and name it MenuShowDelay. 3. Right-click on MenuShowDelay, set its value to 0 (default is 400 milliseconds). 5. Restart Windows. grins