I think the pecs have an angle to them that if it can't be adjusted out, then the original model can probably be adjusted. Just remember that if you make an adjustment in one place it will probably affect something else. We try to catch everything in beta, but sometimes it's the most obvious things that catch us. And I still think Mike3 is masculine. You don't have to be covered with hair and look like an ape to be more male than the next guy. 8^) Marque