Lynn Fredericks said, quote: "Once we ship, all the beta testers can discuss their experiences." I'm amazed when I read this!! Here we have the proof that E-onsoftware is still Beta testing after their products are released...doh! I have this bad feeling that Vue d'Esprit Pro v4.12 (or v4.24 if you just add up) will be the first stable version. My guess is that this is NOT what the professionals are waiting for. If E-onsoftware wants to be successful in the professional market, then they have to deliver more stability than what they are offering for every new released product. Just my 2 cents...