Hi Yves, well, that's weird--I got my CE+ a month ago, too. Welcome to the Cinema4D community. :D I myself will stick around with Vue, mind, as I still think it's one of the best landscape modeling applications out there. And I quite enjoy including some landscapes from time to time. ;) All the best, -Sascha.rb P.S. be sure to download the "Cutter" plugin for C4D, much better than Maxon's knife tool even in release 8 of C4D. -.rb