Use a very small bevel between the top and side (thickness) when creating the object in the 2nd example. This will fix smoothing. Poser has no smoothing groups so it is trying to smooth the object between a 90% angle. That is what gives you these funky shadowed areas. This is assuming a lot of things since you don't give that much info. I don't know what is up with the first example. I hope this helps, Joe www.3-AXIS.com