heyas... er, well, muscle man and young woman were made before the p4 figures! weren't they? :) im getting the eagle, i'm SO annoyed i didnt get it when it was first on sale. 'cuz lyne made just the coolest raven morph for it, and that macaw morph/texture stuff (who made that; not sure), and the hawk things... but my favorite model is still the cat. the cat o' 9 lives... or more like 19, we made a lot of different critters outta that poor cat! :)