And of course you guys love him he's vicky with no tits... WELL...not all of us are guy...lol And some of us do use Mike frequently. I actually prefer not all of my "hero's" to look so big and bulky. I like the leaner toned look for some of mine, and had trouble with getting the non-steroid look for Mike 1/2. But you are right, if you want big and bulky, M3 doesn't do it quite as well yet as M1/2 with some of the superb add-ons. But buying a new mesh, I didn't WANT a duplicate of the old Mike. I wanted something new. And, like you, I am crossing my fingers and hoping dear Capsces gets a Boris equivalent for him. (But I hope that with everything. :)