I've never mentioned animation at all. I work in portraits more often than not and like the idea of having reflections of the environment showing on the characters jewellery and especially their eyes without having to use reflection maps etc.. Not used poser 5 for ages because it keeps locking up on me. Had no problems for ages and then one day bang, I get similar problems that have been posted here before. I am building a second computer and intend to use it just for poser, so hopefully I can get in there and explore it a little bit more.