Thanks guys! for all the help so far...I've got one more render managed out before I fudged up the sky...(anyone know how to go back to default bryce sky? lol) I always model with the default, then about half way through switch to another sky, and in this image my default tweaked sky seemed to go better, umfortunately, I didn't get a good copy of it before I changed it beyond the undo button's abilities LOL Here's WIP 2, and am temted to add my inspiration piece pic with it, but have to check on copyright things first... The house in itself is in no danger of copyright laws as it is similar to 100 other Victorian style houses in our neighborhood, although it's direct inspiration comes from my FAVORITE 2d artist, Thomas Kinkade. *winks* FINALLY after 5 hours, got the grouping right for the windows, I eventually moved the roof booleans out of the way so they stopped interfering, and then grouped and moved the roofs back when the windows were done....MUCH easier...LOL Now I'm working on getting the sky settings back, as well as adding some candles to the windows, as well as a complete english flower garden (learning how to do flowers will be the hard part...lol) JenC