Dave-So opened this issue on Sep 14, 2003 ยท 58 posts
BastBlack posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:52 AM
dirk5027,
I wasn't talking about likeness, I was talking about body types and face types. To clarify:
M2 is to a Caucasian male as M3 is to Multiethnic male.
M3 reminds me of the following celebrities:
Brandon Lee
Caucasian + Chinese Multiethnic
Brandon's multiethnic face type is very much like M3's face type.
Brandon's cut and toned body type is very much like M3's body type.
The Rock
Black + Hawaiian Multiethnic
The Rock's multiethnic face type is like M3's face type.
Vin Desil
Black(?) + Latino(?) Multiethnic
Vin Desil's multiethnic face type is like M3's face type.
Brad Pitt
Caucasian male.
Brad's face type is similar to M3's.
Brad's cut and toned body type is like M3's body type.
Conclusion?
I suspect DAZ was using the golden ratio with M3 and averaging multiple male faces to get an ideal. (Ethnicity melts away when averaging.) You can read more about this here:
http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/humanface/humanface.html
There is also a book that went with this program, and you can also find a wealth for info about the science of beauty ideals in the library. Be sure to check out back issues of Discover magazine too.
Now about M2...
He's got a fleshiness to him M3 doesn't have. A good example of this kind of body type would be Russell Crowe in Gladiator. For the lack of a better term, I'll call his shape in that movie "muscular phat." Bruce Willis, Sean Connery, Hulk Hogan (and pretty much all wrestlers) I would classify as "muscular phat" and they all have the kind of manliness (face and body type) I associate with M2's look. In fact, Sean Connery, back at the start of his career, was Mr. Universe and his shape was not unlike M2's.
But personally, I prefer to set M2 to: Thin .250, Tone .250, Heavy -.050, in order to get what I consider to be a more ideal male body shape. (My tastes are more Jim Morrison than Arnold Swartzenager.)
Maybe somewhere between M2 and M3 is a good looking male mesh everyone will like. Maybe I'll try morphing the M3/M2 Figure halfway towards M3's shape to see what I get. Could be interesting. ;)
bB