I was a little upset before M3 came out - no way I can put him on my computer without choking it. Now, I can only say it's a relief. I do a lot of work with M2, and while he has problems, I've never found much difficulty turning him into the shape I want him, I've had him adolescent, average, large and muscular and even turned him into a Sumo wrestler. Since I post mainly on Renderotica, most of my guys are naked - mesh is important. Don't really see the point of M3. If you want a skinny pretty guy, you have V3 male morphs, which make a male figure that doesn't look as distorted as the M3 one does. This guy looks like his traps are coming adrift from his body, his legs are alarmingly knock kneed and those arms...I dunno what to say. They just ain't right, who has big square lumps in their arms like that? And he doesn't look gay to me. I look gay to me, and I don't look like him, and thank gods, neither does anyone I know :D If the reference was to what gay artists produce, there are a lot more doing big guys with muscles than thin svelte ones. There are a lot more Vickis on this site than Mikes anyway - I don't know if it's the same thing, but it's been mentioned at rotica that Mike is often used as just background or an accessory to Vicki who is the main focus of the pic. If you don't use him much or don't morph him much you don't get to know what he can do - I get people writing to me to ask how to make Mike more realistic, simply because of this - they're not used to his mesh. If you work with him every day, you get to sort out how to make him look decent and he looks a damn sight better than M3 with very little work at all. And you don't need M3 or V3 to get a slim pretty guy, M2 will do it all :D Check out some of the excellent Japanese characters that are based on him - Rubio comes to mind here. The penis problem has also troubled me for some time. There is no perfect penis available for Mike - out of the ones you can get, the GPA one is probably the best and a hell of a lot better than the default - even has foreskin morph, though you have to postwork the texture a little to get it realistic. It shows it's possible, however, to make a penis that's adequate and useable - so why didn't they make one and stick it on Mike?

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