Mmmmmm, I am getting BodyStudio for Max, and I have Max, and I have downloaded the student evaluation copy of Maya, all I need is a copy of BodyStudio for Maya and I can do my own comparison. I did find a website where some American forensic scientist did a comparitive study of Poser and Maya, and Poser won, basically on price and speed of work and availability of a large library of premade models. And I found another website that compared the render speeds of Cinema4D to Max and Lightwave and Cinema4D won on render speed. Does anybody have any idea of the render speeds for World Builder. That will be my next purchase after BodyStudio.